Work travel in flux

"jminer" (jminer) 03/02/2020 at 13:18 • Filed to: None

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Anyone elses work shutting down all travel for Covid 19? My boss told me today they’re killing all non-essential travel as of this morning and this afternoon will decide whether or not to kill all travel period.

As of now I still have a trip to Cleveland leaving tomorrow 9am. In a couple hours I may be staying home for the week.

Im definitely not complaining as a week in Cleveland is not my favorite thing, but we’ve been planning this trip for months...

A sad puppy that very much did not enjoy her last Vet trip a couple weeks ago for your time. When a 115# dog is not happy and not behaving very well things get interesting. This is why I go to a vet that also does large animals, they’re very good at this

Please take me home now...

smobgirl > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:24

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No restrictions here, but no travel for me would mean no income. Maybe we can pick up the pieces for  companies who aren’t letting folks go on the road...

jminer > smobgirl 03/02/2020 at 13:28

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One co-workers husband is a regional salesman who drives everywhere and this week he is to stop traveling.

I’m concerned the panic is going to do far more damage than the disease.

TorqueToYield > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:31

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So far my company is no travel to China or S Korea, limited travel to Japan, Italy and Iran. Domestic travel is same as normal.

We do manufacturing and have sales reps traveling all over the world constantly with China, Japan and S Korea being like 40% of our business. There are multiple trade shows we’re going to, some international ones have been postponed, but not domestic. So yeah we’re screwed.

But given COVIDs been circulating naturally in Seattle for like 6 weeks I’m not too concerned since - hey baby, if you can’t go to COVID, COVID is coming to you.

Chariotoflove > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:32

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Poor pupper.

jminer > TorqueToYield 03/02/2020 at 13:39

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We only travel domestically (I work for a quasi-governmental agency) but this seems like an overreaction to me.

There is a trade show I was going to go to in a few weeks here (ISC West) but it’s looking like that won’t be happening, even hearing rumblings about it being canceled.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:41

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No restrictions here, I’m headed to San Jose California today.

I am expecting restrictions in the next two weeks. 

jminer > Chariotoflove 03/02/2020 at 13:43

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She was very unhappy, but normally loves the vet. She’s getting older though (turned 10 in January) so she can’t see or hear as well as she used to. Her moods also been a bi t erratic, Newfoundland rarely make it past 9 so we’re lucky already but I don’t imagine we have much longer with her.

This was her a few minutes later though. Trying to convince me she was fine and it was time to go home.

jminer > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/02/2020 at 13:44

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This one came out of the blue for me . Friday it was business as usual, first thing this morning non-essential travel canceled with a we’ll decide later today about canceling all maybe.

Chuckles > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:48

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My dad is a limo driver. Most of his job is taking business clients to/from airports in the NYC and Philly metro areas. Things are already slowing down.

Ash78, voting early and often > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:50

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Definitely an overreaction, or at least a case where the costs outweigh the benefits.

Quarantines/restrictions/isolation only work well if everyone is separated, and everyone is participating (like a cartel).

If I were elderly or immune compromised, I could definitely get on board. But for most people, this seems silly.

jminer > Chuckles 03/02/2020 at 13:50

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I can definitely imagine jobs like that being hit hard when travel is dialed back.

Luckily I can to 99.9% of my job remotely - this trip was for that 0 .01% that requires physical presence so we’ll see.

Sovande > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:52

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My parents are scheduled to take a cruise for their 50th wedding anniversary. The trip leaves out of Miami next week and the state of Florida has just instituted a state of emergency. I’ve told them maybe to just skip the trip, but they are stubborn. Hopefully the trip will be canceled. 

The idea of them trapped on a boat sounds real bad to me.

jminer > Ash78, voting early and often 03/02/2020 at 13:52

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Same - I’m not worried about it. I can kind of see a bit of the global aspect of restricting travel though. If half the normal people that travel do so it can drastically slow the spread of it, possibly giving time for a vaccine/treatment to be developed.

Although with last week being the worst the stock market has had since 2008 it definitely does have me worrying some about lasting impacts.

Chuckles > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:52

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I'm a chemist in the pharma industry, so I can't do much remotely. I don't anticipate any amount of shutdown at our site, but I would certainly enjoy the time off.

jminer > Sovande 03/02/2020 at 13:53

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Same - I would definitely not take a cruise right now. They’re already notoriously bad about spreading disease among the passengers...

jminer > Chuckles 03/02/2020 at 13:55

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I’m in IT so my job can be done pretty easily remotely. I don’t think we’ll likely ever go into a contingency mode unless it gets bad (we’re also in the midwest) but time spent WFH is good.

On a personal note - this is definitely putting a damp on the job hunting I’d been doing recently...

Ash78, voting early and often > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:55

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Have you seen the market today? Might just be a dead cat bounce, but several blue chips like Costco and Apple were up 6-8%.

I hope it keeps up or stabilizes, I’m still a believer that the markets are the best barometer of how things are being affected.

jminer > Ash78, voting early and often 03/02/2020 at 13:56

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Hadn’t checked today - but Friday was the same with a meh day.  Marketplace was calling it a ‘correction’ as of yet so that’s fine.  A bad week on its own doesn’t bother me.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:57

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I put my wife on the plane this morning for her monthly client visit (continental US travel). Fortunately I was leaving late for work due to a local meeting, and could take her since the Uber availability was quieter than usual. A symptom of travel slowing down, maybe.

Next month I’m not so sure I want her being stuck in a flying metal petri dish.

Thomas Donohue > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:58

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I leave for Vegas next Monday for a conference. Should be interesting based on what happens in the next five days, and I expect turnout to be light if it’s not cancelled.

In all honesty, I’d rather get this earlier than later. From what I’ve read you can’t contract this specific strain a second time. Once recovered and no longer contagious, I’d be free to travel to Europe with impunity, at reduced rates!

(Not making light of the serious health and financial aspects of the epidemic, just trying to look at the positives)

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > jminer 03/02/2020 at 13:59

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travel not so much.... expecting supply line troubles tho

we have custom bits from everywhere.. waterpumps from italy glass thermos liners from japan electric motors from ireland etc

we are almost certain to run into some issues with this

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > jminer 03/02/2020 at 14:04

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I just booked a flight for March 18-20 plane is at 30% full. Hmmm.....

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > jminer 03/02/2020 at 14:05

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Mine is sending me to California on Wednesday to meet with South Koreans. I’m not making this up or making a joke lol.

I think Cleveland will be fine.

TorqueToYield > Thomas Donohue 03/02/2020 at 14:05

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I’m honestly more worried about our government and societies response to the virus than the virus itself.

It’s be interesting to see how many people have already gotten the virus and not even known it.

Thomas Donohue > TorqueToYield 03/02/2020 at 14:09

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With a possible incubation period of up to two weeks without any symptoms (but contagious) , I’d say there are already many more cases out there.

jminer > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 03/02/2020 at 14:10

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Definitely - that's going to cause the most pain I think

jminer > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 03/02/2020 at 14:20

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Ha!

jminer > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/02/2020 at 14:21

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That’s pretty damn empty

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Sovande 03/02/2020 at 14:24

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Trapped at a floating all-you-can-eat buffet. That does sound dangerous...

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > jminer 03/02/2020 at 14:33

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its definitely not making my higher ups happy

if it gets bad enough they’ll start cutting staff again....thats always fun

but..wait and see i guess...china seems to be over the worst of it now..soo guess we’ll just have to ride it out for a couple weeks

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > jminer 03/02/2020 at 14:37

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Good time to fly, free upgrade to 1st!

jminer > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/02/2020 at 14:47

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Ha! I always fly Southwest so that ends up with empty rows which is amazing.

Jason Spears > jminer 03/02/2020 at 14:50

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Every time I hear about impending or actual restrictions on non-essential travel, I stop and wonder why we were paying for people to travel unnecessarily in the first place.

jminer > Jason Spears 03/02/2020 at 14:54

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There are a lot of t hings that are better in person but can be done remotely over a video conference or something.

But overall I agree with you.

Nom De Plume > Sovande 03/02/2020 at 15:14

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I know someone who’s 50th anniversary celebration was 2 months traversing China starting next month.  Multiple years in the planning.  Yeah, crestfallen would be scarcely touching the surface.

HammerheadFistpunch > jminer 03/02/2020 at 15:21

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We’ve got an announcement this afternoon from our ceo about covid  so there is a chance I won’t be in Chicago in a few weeks... But I doubt it.

HammerheadFistpunch > Sovande 03/02/2020 at 15:22

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On the other hand I'm reaping the windfalls shopping for cruises

jminer > HammerheadFistpunch 03/02/2020 at 15:26

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They just told me my trip was still on. I’m a little disappointed, I kind of wanted to not go to Cleveland for a week...

Several others got canceled though - so either my trip was important or I'm expendable ;)

HammerheadFistpunch > jminer 03/02/2020 at 15:28

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Ha! Yeah I wouldn't be heartbroken. I know about a third of the conference attendies have already cancled... Because we got their hotel reservations

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > jminer 03/02/2020 at 15:29

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I’ve got to be in Long Beach all next week for work. Definitely still going. Though I am taking the motorcycle instead of flying, not because of covid19 though, because I want to. I'm more worried about crappy roads than getting sick.

jminer > HammerheadFistpunch 03/02/2020 at 15:31

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LOL! I was supposed to go to Vegas for a conference in a couple weeks but I’m thinking my travel  will be canceled here in the next week or so. We're not presenting, just there to see the new stuff.

jminer > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/02/2020 at 15:37

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That sounds a million times better than my travel. Riding a motorcycle to Florida is a million times better than flying to Cleveland...

Aso our team had 4 trips planned on the next two weeks, mine is the only one not cancelled. I think I may be expendable ;)

Sovande > Nom De Plume 03/02/2020 at 15:38

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Ye ah this was a significantly less involved trip to the Caribbean, something my mother has always wanted to do, but that my father has never had any interest in. My guess is that he will be practicing his “I’m sorry we couldn’t go, honey” face a whole lot. I still feel badly for them as 50 years is a long time. And as my father is wont to say, marriage has been the best 43 or 44 years of his life.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > jminer 03/02/2020 at 15:40

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Crap! You’re definitely expendable in their eyes!

CA, not FL. I’ve got a couple mountain passes to go over, or around depending on conditions. So it’ll be interesting, and cold, to say the least. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > jminer 03/02/2020 at 15:42

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Well first class on Alaska is nice but it’s not Quite delta nice.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > smobgirl 03/02/2020 at 15:43

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I biked a flight two weeks out and it’s nearly empty 

Nom De Plume > Sovande 03/02/2020 at 15:54

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Does that arithmetic account for a young wife or a young mother?

jminer > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/02/2020 at 15:58

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For some reason I read Daytona beach even though that’s definitely not what you said...

California is drastically better than Cleveland plus riding a bike - sounds like and ideal vacation to me!

To be serious though the other trips were more on the glad-handing variety, mine I’m doing actual physical work so it cannot be done remotely.

fintail > Ash78, voting early and often 03/02/2020 at 16:48

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Locally anyway Costco is making bank on the hysteria, the witless drones are panicking and stocking up.

Sovande > Nom De Plume 03/02/2020 at 17:48

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I think it accounts for 6 or 7 years that my dad felt weren’t so great...

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > jminer 03/02/2020 at 18:44

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Another positive of CA... No Florida man!

Nom De Plume > Sovande 03/02/2020 at 19:12

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So long as the current years are additive instead of subtractive there’s nothing to be concerned about.

wafflesnfalafel > jminer 03/02/2020 at 21:59

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W e just killed all corporate travel and closed our building downtown, at least temporarily - everybody working from home.  We had a bunch of big meetings with execs out from Boston planned for Wed this week and everything got axed.  In other news, our local Safeway has toilet paper again...

jminer > wafflesnfalafel 03/02/2020 at 22:06

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This is all nuts. My trip is still on, but it’s the only one. Everything else has been cancelled.

I wouldn't mind working from home for sure though.